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Minutes for November 2007

Draft Minutes of the Meeting of St Bees Parish Council held on Monday 19 November 2007

At 7.30pm in the Village Hall

PRESENT: Cllr D Sim ( in the Chair), N Bettinson, G Gilmour, J Haile, I Hill, F Kennedy, R Mayow, C Robson, J Rowlands, V Turpin and the Clerk.


Apologies for absence were received from Cllrs Smith and Millington.


Cllr Haile declared a personal interest in the planning applications for Outriggs and Blythe Place as a relative/friend of the applicants and also declared his membership of the Youth Centre Management Committee in connection with the donation request from St Bees Scout Group.


It was RESOLVED that the minutes of the meeting held on 15 October 2007 be accepted as a true record and signed by the Chairman.


(a) Youth Issues

Posters and leaflets detailing the activities available had been prepared for printing.

It was RESOLVED that printing costs up to £50 be approved.

(b) Crime & Anti-social behaviour issues

CBC had confirmed that the CCTV camera would be in place shortly. There had as yet been no further contact from the residents group. The Chairman had obtained a copy of the constitution for the Distington Rural Safety Group as a possible model and he/Cllr Gilmour had been invited to attend one of their meetings.

(c) Web-site software

It had been suggested that slide shows could be included in the web-site. The costs of the software (total 90 US dollars) would be shared between the Council and other web-site owners.

It was RESOLVED that a contribution of up to 50% of the costs be approved.

(d) Other items from the Action List


  • White lining B5345 – the site meeting with Cumbria Highways had taken place. Some centre lines had been put in but the road was too narrow for a centre line along the whole section. The suggestion of white lines at the edge of the road had been discussed but Highways did not believe that this would be effective.

It was RESOLVED that a letter be sent to Cumbria Highways asking that they reconsider the question of white lines at the edge of the road.


  • Casual Vacancies – the vacancy caused by the resignation of Cllr Wilson has been advertised. If no election is claimed within 14 days the Council will be asked to fill the vacancy by co-option. An item would be included in the next edition of the Parish magazine and posters would be put on the noticeboards seeking expressions of interest.
  • Outstanding CCC issues- Cllr Southward was continuing to press for progress on the issue of flooding, modifications to the speed limit and adoption of the Fairladies footpath.
  • Outstanding CBC issues – Cllr N Clarkson had reported that the replacement street lights were on order.


Correspondence had been received from a local resident about the lack of street signage following problems experienced by the ambulance service in finding a property on Outrigg It appears that there is no official name for the Outrigg estate and therefore CBC could not supply a street sign. The correct procedure would be for residents to agree on a suitable name and ask CBC to approve this as the postal address. The Clerk would reply to the resident who had raised the issue.

Other on-going street name issues were also discussed. The Clerk would contact CBC again about the naming of Coach Rd and the unnamed stretch of the B5345 by the Priory and ask the Ward Councillors to follow up the replacement of missing signs at the Crofts and the northern entrance to the village.



Following the resignation from the Council of Marcus Clarkson, a vacancy exists on the Planning Advisory Committee.

It was RESOLVED that Cllr Kennedy be appointed as a member of the Planning Advisory Committee.


(a) ‘Closer to Home’ – Cumbria Primary Care Trust

A copy of the consultation paper was received which contains proposals for delivering more services through primary care and in the community including the effects on hospital services. It was noted that health services would also be discussed at the Neighbourhood Forum meeting on 27 November.

It was RESOLVED that Cllr Hill co-ordinate the response to this consultation and that any comments be sent to him as soon as possible.

(b) Cumbria Minerals and Waste Development Framework

A copy of the revised draft of the Preferred Options Core Strategy was received. Cllr Bettinson agreed to review the document.

(c) Sellafield Wastes

Correspondence was received from Sellafield Ltd about stakeholder consultation on various waste issues. Cllr Gilmour agreed to review the documents.


There were no new items for report


It was noted that Cumbria Highways were to trial a new system of parish by parish inspections with the aim of carrying out minor repairs.

The following items were noted for report to CCC:-


  • The gulley outside Stonehouse Farm is still blocked despite the earlier report.
  • The drain between Pow Beck bridge and the Priory (opposite the entrance to the sports field) is blocked.
  • The surface of the pavement on the Main Street is uneven.
  • The sandstone gate stoop which was removed from outside the Manor Hotel 2-3 years ago following damage by a vehicle has still not been replaced.


(a) New Applications

The following new applications had been received for comment:

(Having declared an interest Cllr Haile took no part in the decisions on the first two applications.)


  • 4/07/2657/0F1 New dwelling, Plot 2 Blythe Place Gardens, Seamill Lane

It was RESOLVED that there was no objection to this application.


  • 4/07/2664/001 New 2 storey dwelling, Outriggs, St Bees

It was RESOLVED that there was no objection to this application.


  • 4/07/2662/TPO Removal of sycamore and buddleia, St Bees Village School

It was RESOLVED that there was no objection to this application.


  • 4/07/2691/TPO Removal of 2 leylandii trees, 123 Main Street, St Bees

It was RESOLVED that there was no objection to this application.

(b) Applications approved

The following applications had been approved by Copeland Borough Council:

  • 4/07/2584/0F1 Remove existing outhouse and replace with extension, 2 Grindal Place
  • 4/07/2603/0L1 Rerendering of gable wall, Ashleigh House, St Bees
  • 4/07/2608/0F1 Side and rear extensions, Bank How, Seamill Lane
  • 4/07/2637/0F1 New site entrance, Outriggs, St Bees


(c) Appeal by Story Homes

The decision of the Planning Inspectorate had been received. The appeal by Story Homes had been upheld.

It was RESOLVED that a letter be sent to Story Homes seeking confirmation that the footpath and car park development would now proceed.

(d) Birkhams Quarry – Proposed diversion of public footpath

A letter had been received from CCC seeking comments on proposals to divert the public footpath inland. The original proposal to divert the footpath along the cliff edge had been rejected on safety grounds.

It was RESOLVED that there was no objection to the proposed diversion of the path provided that there was adequate signposting of the route to rejoin the Cumbria Coastal Way.

168/07 FINANCE

(a) Budget and Precept 2007/8

Income and expenditure plans for 2008/9 were discussed. It was noted that the deadline for notification of the precept to CBC was 20 December.

It was RESOLVED that:-


  • Allotment rents be increased to £20 per plot in July 2008
  • The proposal to erect a metal fence at Beck Edge Garden be deferred until the condition of the wooden fence necessitated replacement
  • Any further items for inclusion in the budget be forwarded to the Chairman as soon as possible.

(b) Donations

It was RESOLVED that the following donations be agreed:


  • Royal British Legion - £150 (cheque no 001279)
  • St Bees Village Hall Committee - £265 (to cover the use of the hall and office) (cheque no 001280)
  • St Bees PCC - £437.96 (to cover the cost of 2 editions of St Bees News) (cheque no 001281)
  • Youth Centre Management Committee - £245 (for the purchase of a new cooker as requested by the Scout Group) (cheque no 001284)
  • Lifeboat Appeal - £100 (cheque no 001285)

(c) Payments to be approved

It was RESOLVED that the following accounts be approved for payment:-


  • Cheque no 001282 J Donaldson – November Salary (£269.73) & postage (£2.88) £272.61
  • Cheque no 001283 E Smith – Reimbursement for materials for shed repair (Village in Bloom) £261.19


(a) Confirmation had been received from the Planning Inspectorate that the Definitive Map Modification Order No.2 2005 (bridleway at Green Lonning) had now been approved.

(b) A letter had been received from Environment Cumbria (a landscape design practice) offering services to assist with implementing environmental projects in Parish Plans. Noted.

(c) A letter had been received from CBC inviting representation on a management committee for the beach aimed at achieving a Yellow Flag award.

It was RESOLVED that Cllr Turpin be nominated to join the Committee.

(d) A letter had been received from CBC about changes to payment arrangements for council tax. It was noted that payment facilities would be available at St Bees Post Office.

(e) Copies of correspondence had been received between residents of Sea View and Cumbria Highways about a possible ‘residents only’ parking scheme. The outcome of discussions at the Highways Working Group was awaited.

(f) A letter had been received from the Open Spaces Society seeking donations to fund advice on registering village greens.

It was RESOLVED that a donation of £25 be made.


(g) Letter received from CCC giving early warning of likely changes to bus services following the end of current funding to subsidise services which are not commercially viable.

(h) The agenda had been received for the Neighbourhood Forum meeting on Tuesday 27 November at the Adams Recreation Ground.


CALC Circular November 2007

CALC Annual Report

Cumbria Rural Housing Trust Update

Countryside Voice – Autumn 2007

Cumbria Rider – Passenger Transport Guide Nov 07 – Mar 08

The Lakes Messenger – Newsletter for the National Park


(a) Cllr Haile agreed to organise the village Christmas tree with Cllrs Rowlands, Bettinson and Sim arranging for decoration and use of electricity.

(b) The war memorial had been damaged by a Network Rail vehicle. An estimate for repair (£808 + VAT) had been sent to Network Rail.

(c) Cllr Robson reported that the History Group were hopeful of receiving funding to promote the Priory as a tourist attraction following discussions with the Hadrian’s Wall group and the Heritage Lottery Fund.


It was RESOLVED that the next meeting take place on Monday 17 December 2007 at the earlier time of 7.00pm.