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Removal Of 20 Mph Speed Limit - St. Bees


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#1 Parish Council

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 09:28 PM

In accordance with Gov't policy, speed limits on A & B roads must be reviewed. Copeland area is in the pilot scheme, and County Council would like to implement as per the map on............

traffic calming proposed changes

The proposal is to remove the 20 mph limit, but retain all existing speed bumps.

Any comments should be sent to councillors or the clerk with the greatest urgency. The expiry date for comment to County is 13th Nov. So please have any comments to Parish Council well before this.

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 09:10 AM

QUOTE (Parish Council @ Oct 19 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In accordance with Gov't policy, speed limits on A & B roads must be reviewed. Copeland area is in the pilot scheme, and County Council would like to implement as per the map on............

traffic calming proposed changes

The proposal is to remove the 20 mph limit, but retain all existing speed bumps.

Any comments should be sent to councillors or the clerk with the greatest urgency. The expiry date for comment to County is 14th Nov. So please have any comments to Parish Council well before this.


In the words of McEnroe "You can't be serious"!! There may be a case for removing that limit on open stretches like Coach Road but it would be absolutely foolhardy to remove them from anywhere else in the village. On most roads in the village driving at more than 20 mph is inappropriate regardless of any speed limits.

They must be kept.

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Posted 23 October 2008 - 10:43 AM

Yes, the County IS serious.

The PC is very concerned that after years of implementing traffic control, the County Local committee is now undertaking this work without proper consultation. There has been no previous consultation with the community and the PC, there is no supporting evidence on traffic usage, average speeds etc.
The PC thinks the County case is weak, and a strong challenge is to be put up.

The formal notification can be seen at:

20 mph speed limit letters


The Copeland ward councillor Norman Clarkson, is involved and will be making representations to the County Local Committee based on the PC case. Cllr Clarkson contact details

The County Councillor for St. Bees, David Southwood, is also involved and has written a letter of objection. You can help him further by sending your comments to ....Contact David Southwood

For those interested in looking at the circular guidance it is at:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/speed...circular106.pdf

The County case seems to hang on the statement that 20 mph limit is not allowed on main or strategic routes. The PC is of the opinion that the B5345 does not come into this category. There is also a statement about the distance from calming devices from the limit boundary, which has been in force for 6 years, but no discussions on this matter have been broached, or alternative solutions sought. The rest of the circular re-inforces the PC case that the nature of the long enclosed narrow Main Street with schools and high pedestrian usage, is an essential area for continuing a 20 mph limit.

Alternatively write or contact your local Parish Councillor or Clerk

list of councillors, and contact details for clerk


The deadline for comment is very close.... 13th Nov.




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